TI-ming? Or Ti-Ming?
By: Mike “the Job-man” Mailman

Salary Negotiation for the Job Hunter – When is the Right Time?
No, I have not suddenly begun speaking in Chinese. Rather, every day, I encounter job searchers who struggle with the fundamental and important question of timing. That is, when and how to discuss salary or benefits during an interview with a perspective employer. In this blog, I will try (without resorting to Mandarin or Cantonese) to provide some insights into this important topic. Just keep in mind, like Chinese, it is easy, as long as you know and obey the rules. Ask anyone from China. Chinese is just as clear to them as your native tongue’s rules and grammar are to you.
After almost twenty years of personally interviewing people, training managers on how to interview people or teaching job searchers how to successfully interview with employers here is what I know:
1) He or she who speaks first usually loses. This is a general principle that many of you know applies to all negotiations. Generally speaking, as a job searcher, the longer you are able to delay or deflect money discussions, the more leverage you have (and thus likely more income you will make) when negotiations do, in fact, occur. Consider this your “incentive”. Of course, this does not mean that you NEVER discuss money EVER, since this will only irritate employers. So how do you know, when it is or is not the right time to talk about money?
2) Timing! Consider this analogy. You are single and on a first, blind date in a fancy, five-star restaurant. You are finishing your entrée, enjoying pleasant dinner conversation, the high-class atmosphere along with the wit and charm of your companion when suddenly he or she brings up the subject of marriage. For you ladies, imagine, he actually gets down on one knee and with deep sincerity, flowers and a one carat diamond ring pops the question, “Will you marry me?”, ON THE FIRST DATE. Or, alternatively, gentlemen, she asks, “When WE get married, where should WE go for OUR honeymoon?” or “How many kids would YOU like US to have and what should they be named?” What are you thinking now? Be honest. You are thinking this person is a certifiable nut, right? You are probably saying to yourself, “Get me a straight jacket or at least point me to the nearest exit!” And rightly so.
How is it that all of us can agree and feel the same way about this situation? Really think about it. Was it the questions themselves? The location or atmosphere where they were asked? Was it the sincerity in their voice? Was it perhaps, the violins? No, of course not. It was simply a matter of bad timing. In this case, it was too early. Now consider a slightly different example. Same setting, dinner companion, same sincerity and questions but you have known each other for over two years. Now, how do you feel? You feel completely unlike you felt before, right? The response to the proposal may be yes or it might even be no, but at least you are not running away in panic. It is exactly the same with the timing of the money question. It is a fair question but only when asked at an appropriate time and thus should only be answered when it is the proper time.
Like in the hypothetical relationship example above, there are no clear rule books that tells us exactly when is the “right time” to broach the subject, but we can all easily agree that the first date (or first interview) was certainly far too soon. Get to know the company, their needs and your level of interest in the assignment first. If you expect multiple interviews, then you should assume that the subject is forbidden until the last or possibly second to last interview. In his excellent book, Knock ‘em Dead, the author, Martin Yate gives this example:
When the company says, “Who are you?” Is it time to negotiate? No!
When the company says, “We like you?” Is it time now? Still no.
When the company says, “We love you?” Now? Surprisingly, still negative.
When the company says, “We have to have you?” NOW is the time to negotiate!
When the company says, “We got you?” It’s too late, the door has closed!
Of course this is a simplified example, but is valid food for thought. Feel free to post any responses or questions about your situation and I will be happy to answer them. In my next blog, I will answer the next burning question. How should I respond when an employer asks me to talk money (get married) too early (on the first date)?
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